Ferrari’s Emotional Hemophilia

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Those of you who have been with us for the long haul can most likely recall a Reader Submission from last fall going into detail about the strange licensing agreements Kunos Simulazioni have had to put up with since Assetto Corsa exploded in popularity. Claiming both McLaren and Ferrari forced the Italian developer to manipulate the performance of certain cars within Assetto Corsa to appear more proficient than their real life counterparts – and therefore legitimately reducing the title’s almighty simulation value – the anonymous author heavily implied that these bizarre deals were just one of the ways a small team like Kunos Simulazioni were able to acquire such big brands in a hurry. If the performance of the La Ferrari hypercar had to be artificially manipulated beyond real world data to appease the overlords at Ferrari, Kunos complied. If McLaren requested the handling characteristics of the god-awful McLaren 12c road car to be dialed out, again, Kunos bit the bullet and crossed their fingers in the hopes that not too many people would notice.

Obviously, some did, and we were tipped off about these backroom modifications thanks to the open-ended nature of PRC.net’s Reader Submissions, but unfortunately, there wasn’t much proof that all of this was going on behind the scenes aside from, well, hearsay. So I was forced to conduct my own tests to investigate the rumor of the Mclaren P1 being nerfed at Italian tracks, and I indeed discovered the McLaren P1 wasn’t allowed to use the DRS system at Monza – though it was fine at Silverstone. Yet as always, the rabid Assetto Corsa fanboys raced into action, again trying to claim we had this irrational vendetta for one of the most popular modern racing sims on the market.

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Today, the Reader Submission published over six months ago now sounds a lot more credible than I think anyone was prepared for. Dropping today was the highly anticipated Red Pack, featuring the Grand Prix Circuit formerly know as the A-1 Ring, as well as a handful of performance cars from reputable Italian brands such as Ferrari, Maseratti, and Lamborghini. I’m not going to list each car individually, as other sites have already done that for you, so I’ll get right to what you need to know for this article – the pack contained two modern Ferrari Formula One entries. That’s basically why people were excited for this pack.

And when they tried to race them with other Formula One cars that they’ve picked up from around the incredibly active Assetto Corsa modding scene, they were instead greeted with this message.

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The Assetto Corsa subbeddit has predictably exploded over this. Before we could even get our hands on the newest DLC pack and put it through its paces, Assetto Corsa fans across the globe discovered that Ferrari had put incredibly ridiculous restrictions on the two Formula One cars available in the downloadable content bundle. Across what appears to be all modes of gameplay, both in single player races as well as online sessions, Kunos and Ferrari will explicitly not let you race the Ferrari F1 cars against any other car in the game.

Now on the outset, this isn’t exactly a big problem for Assetto Corsa fans strictly sticking with official Kunos Simulazioni DLC packages, as there aren’t any other Grand Prix cars in the game, and it’s not like you’re going to run a multi-class race between the Ferrari SF15-T against a bunch of Fiat 500’s. However, members of the extremely dedicated modding community are obviously in the process of creating entire Formula One seasons for Assetto Corsa, and this effectively prevents people from trying to hold a realistic Formula One event within Assetto Corsa, as the official Ferrari Grand Prix cars will be restricted from participating in those races by the game itself. So not only is Formula One running around and forcing modders to take down modern Formula One modifications for other racing simulators across the internet, now individual racing teams teams are literally working with the developers of the games themselves to prevent users from playing the game in their desired fashion.

Regardless of whether this garbage is due to Formula One Management stepping into the fray behind the scenes, or Ferrari themselves – who have notoriously specific requests concerning the depiction of any of their products in a virtual environment, this is equivalent to that kid from primary school throwing a literal tantrum in his living room because you put a Matchbox car on his Hot Wheels track. The fact that Kunos willingly agreed to this deal, and in this case specifically did not mention this would occur to potential customers, is just insult to injury. All parties involved are guilty of being absolutely fucking retarded.

Now is it possible to circumvent the soft-DRM on the two Ferrari Grand Prix cars?

Of course. Welcome to PC gaming.

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109 thoughts on “Ferrari’s Emotional Hemophilia

  1. Please don’t manipulate things about LaFerrari and Mclaren P1. The P1 in the older game version was restricted to DRS zones like F1 cars because it was a global setting for any car with DRS. But then after you ran that article, Kunos made the P1 have DRS everywhere in the track as is a road car, not a Formula 1 car where they are only allowed in certain zones of the track.

    About the LaFerrari, where is some evidence that the car has better data/specs than real life? Where is the comparison you made that shows us Ferrari made Kunos to overpower the laferrari compared to the real car?

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    1. Was just about to mention that. At first it was incorrectly being detected for DRS zones, and it was patched in a hotfix. Just now tried the P1 at Monza and I could flip the wing anywhere.

      I mean I don’t doubt that Ferrari and McLaren made them fuck with the physics (see: 12C actually handling well and being fun to drive), but just putting the DRS part of it to bed.

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      1. IT is true, James got Stefano to admit it.

        It happened In a meeting in Montreal back in early 2015 with the Kunos Head man, the hottest boys in the sim racing industry met up at the sim racing summit 2k15 in Montreal.

        James was there.

        He confronted Stefano about the Ferrari and Mclaren DRS dilemma and Stefano spilled the beans, Stefano thought he was clear. But little did he know James was video tapping the whole altercation.

        These are the secret tapes:

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    2. A few words about Assetto Corsa’s physics limitations.

      Modern openwheelers can be very stiff … i mean extremely stiff, springs and ARBs (dampers as well)! and Assetto Corsa has engine limitations that doesn’t allow using high suspension rates (causes weird bugs)!

      Interactive aerodynamics physics is a must for an openwheeler, rear aero depends on what’s happening at the front and the rear not only the rear! and vice versa (interaction between front wing and diffuser for example)

      Tyre model is not well explained and needs more variables to be added, to get realistic grip and temperatures/pressure behaviour! You can’t cook accurate slicks with it.

      Lack of setup options possibilities in general

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            1. So the mod creator is lying about his mod he made in cooperation with the real life team which he had access to the car??

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              1. He is lying that the stiffer damper options aren’t based on real life team data.

                The full range of stiff dampers was also in corporation with the real life team, they even fixed a bug in an earlier version v1.1 to increase the range, while boasting about it being based on real life team data, with real min/max for dampers etc.

                Now that it was discovered that AC breaks down with the stiff options, he came up with an excuse that he made a mistake by forgetting to set the min/max, but evidence clearly shows that he had already set min/max and even fixed a bug to increase the min/max earlier.

                With the proposed fix the wheel rates will be disproportional. Is he gonna come up with the excuse that he also forgot to set the min/max there? I don’t buy that.

                This was not a mistake as he is making us believe, he’s doing damage control for Kunos.

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      1. Then go play with yur shitty no lisence GUESSWORK ripF2..U know wat when there is a new dlc from AC u can see a drop of rf2 rednecks stop playing their shitty redf2 game on Steamdb..not the other way around!

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        1. Just take a look at the Ferrari SF15-T tyres pressure, it’s a total joke, i mean 32 PSI is a big joke … you can easily find on internet what are the recommended pressures by pirelli for hot tyres 🙂

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        2. When you enter real data to rFactor 2, it works like real life, it’s not the case for Assetto Corsa, you always have to use workarounds and substitute models 🙂

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  2. Delete a single line in notepad to remove restriction.

    And you’re deliberately lying about the P1/LaFerrari just to continue your blog-bait 101 link-back bullshit. Now that’s absolutely fucking retarded. You should be collaborating with the latin american f1 experts on how wrong Kunos got absolutely everything about those cars – I’m sure it will be a corker of an exposé.

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  3. For all the tracks that I can find on RSR with top times driven by the same people, the P1 is significantly faster. Which doesn’t make the licensing on the F1 cars any less ridiculous.

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    1. On the other hand, it’s possible that Kunos implemented that restriction themselves to keep the FIA off their backs for allowing something that resembled an F1 race from breaking out.

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      1. Reminder, Polyphony Digital did the same in GT5 (even to the point F2007 vs F10 races weren’t allowed), but didn’t do the same thing with Lotus 97T (Senna tie-in car) in GT6. Probably because Classic Team Lotus (who owns the rights for the 97T) is less of a jerk.

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  4. A few words about Assetto Corsa’s physics limitations.

    Modern openwheelers can be very stiff … i mean extremely stiff, springs and ARBs (dampers as well)! and Assetto Corsa has engine limitations that doesn’t allow using high suspension rates (causes weird bugs)!

    Interactive aerodynamics physics is a must for an openwheeler, rear aero depends on what’s happening at the front and the rear not only the rear! and vice versa (interaction between front wing and diffuser for example)

    Tyre model is not well explained and needs more variables to be added, to get realistic grip and temperatures/pressure behaviour! You can’t cook accurate slicks with it.

    Lack of setup options possibilities in general

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      1. Just take a look at the Ferrari SF15-T tyres pressure, it’s a total joke, i mean 32 PSI is a big joke … you can easily find on internet what are the recommended pressures by pirelli for hot tyres:)

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      2. When you enter real data to rFactor 2, it works like real life, it’s not the case for Assetto Corsa, you always have to use workarounds and substitute models 🙂

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  5. Sounds like Football Manager. Due to licensing, you can’t have real players in certain national teams (Germany and Japan IIRC), you can’t see real competition names, you can’t see the real names of Brazilian teams… but delete a couple 2 KB files and all the correct stuff magically appears. “We tried” say the developers. Horray for modding!

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  6. Just take a look at the Ferrari SF15-T tyres pressure, it’s a total joke, i mean 32 PSI is a big joke … you can easily find on internet what are the recommended pressures by pirelli for hot tyres 🙂

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  7. Fucking Ferrari. It’s sister companies are just happy to have there fucking cars on there but no Ferrari wants more and McLaren I may like your F1 Longtail bit your on notice too.

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  8. To the AC fanboys, we welcome you guys to come over to the ISI forums to debate with us about how rF2 is the most superior sim today, and that AC is a simcade racing game. We don’t have to close our forums to the public because we are not insecure about our racing game unlike Kunos, and we will easily tear down any of your arguments about AC being more realistic than rF2.

    It’s also no surprise that Kunos would suck up to the car manufacturers so they can include their cars into the game.

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    1. There is nothing to debate in rf2 forum.Rf2 is dead and boring with no QC guesswork CONTENTS.! ISI an Murican dev still dont have a proper Lapuna Sega track or a proper whatever Imsa,Trans AM,Nascar series.!Debate close kid!

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  9. Now the last 3 rfactor fighters are repeating their brain-shit again and again while assetto grows and grows.

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    1. How does Assetto Corsa continue to grow when it lacks essential features that’s been in the rFactor series for over 10 years?

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      1. And you don’t understand none of it. That’s why you keep holding forever on the “essential features that’s been in the rFactor series for over 10 years”.

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        1. It is not my fault that Kunos are too incompetent to includes these features into their game. You guys bitch all the time about physics, yet you overlook rF2, which objectively has the best car physics out of any racing sim today. I guess that’s to be expected since AC fanboys cannot think rationally and play on inferior software. Assetto Corsa is no different than GT and Forza it’s hilarious how you idiotic fanboys try to defend that the easy driving of AC is realistic when it’s not. AC can’t even simulate race cars properly for fucks sake.

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  10. Friendly reminder: This restriction also exists in GT5 – F2007 vs F10 races weren’t allowed either, only one of them is allowed. The Senna Lotus 97T in GT6 does not have this limitation though. I wonder if the 642 in Forza 6 have same limitations…

    Also, eventually Kunos will have some tamper checks to prevent removal of that line.

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  11. This doesn’t seem new in any way, so while I do understand why you’re so upset about this I’m not at all surprised. Apart from the usual Ferrari things, like optimising cars for track tests and all, you can always go back to 1998 and 1999. In Need For Speed 3 and 4 you could not use Ferrari and Mercedes cars in Hot Pursuit mode, because it “would be bad for the company to present the cars in this manner”. Funny enough, by the time Hot Pursuit 2 came out it was somehow OK to do this.

    I’ve bought Ferrari Virtual Academy some time ago (when you could still do that) — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_Virtual_Academy . You have two F1 cars and one GT car and three tracks. But you cannot drive one of the said F1 cars on one of the tracks (I do not remember which) due to licensing issues. Yep.

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  12. You were absolutely spot on in the article about the “Hero Cards”, Ogonoski. This shit is ridiculous. Except you didn’t think of analyzing it further. You know why it’s ridiculous? Not because it’s a virtual vs. real affair. In fact, virtual racing requires more dedication and offers far less in return. Ask any “pretend race driver” if they want to do that for real and guess what the answer will be? Then ask a real life race car driver for the other way around, and you’ll most likely get an offer to go fuck yourself. So, the “Hero Cards” crap is ridiculous by itself, not because of some delusional toy wheel drivers trying to promote themselves.

    Which leads to… real racing taking itself much more seriously than it deserves to be taken. F1 drivers are not test jet pilots or anything like that. The activity started as a fun pastime, then some brain dead idiots decided it needs to be given a lot of importance and attention. Obviously, some did that for the money… But the bottom line is, any major sports event is basically a backyard schoolboys meeting blown to an extreme. And all the far-fetched rules like flags, qualies, tyres and gas management only make that worse. Just a bunch of pretentious pricks driving hundreds or laps over the same five corners on perfect tarmac. Heroes? Laughable. And don’t get me started on NASCAR…

    If some other idiot would come up with all that crap first, you’d have a totally different set or rules, track layouts and other stuff. The only true rule in racing is “get to the finish line first and don’t be a dick while at that”. Period. But honestly, if you want to see real racing heroes, take a look at the rally drivers. Now those guys truly deserve a lot of respect. Then again, maybe not, since they should be total nutjobs. The same goes to those who race bikes.

    The bottom line is, these activities are forms of entertainment. They are taken too seriously for their own good. And that’s the reason for all the dramas that surround them. That kind of entertainment should be fun, not a form of warfare. And that, without a doubt, is how it started. Then it was blown out of proportion… by the guys like you, Ogonoski. Please, get a grip on reality.

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  13. As pointed out above, GT5 had a similar situation with the Ferrari F1 cars in that game; you only race them against each other, the Formula GT (PD’s F1 knockoff) etc. could not.

    Whether that’s down to Maranello or FOM, I’ve no idea. Probably both. Blame Bernie.

    Also, the lack of alignment in the ‘AC is simcade’ spam is triggering my autism.

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      1. It’s funny, I can tell it’s the same guy who was spamming months ago. He does a really shitty job of laying things out, with bad alignment and overlap. It’s a surprisingly recognizable characteristic with this guy, almost like there’s something legitimately wrong with him.

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  14. Irrespective of if the real Associator or his friend Hex are spamming these forums – get a fucking life.

    Nobody gives a shit what you post, what you think of any sim or what you believe makes your chosen sim better than anything else currently available.

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  15. man you RF shills are psychos, suggest you just play or start to masturbate in front of your favorite game and give normal people a break, you need to be ass fucked until you´re buried under the ISI forum

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  16. Where’s the article about how AC 1.7 is obviously a complete disaster because of increased activity in the bug reporting forum? It’s happening again, and it’s completely unacceptable that a comprehensive free software update has introduced minor bugs while drawing in more players that notice more things.

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  17. Gran Turismo limited Ferrari F1 cars. Real Racing limits Ferrari F1 cars. Even Kunos’ old Ferrari Virtual Academy you couldn’t run the F150 Italia on Nurburgring GP track (for some reason). Ferrari are a bit odd about licensing.

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      1. From my point of view, this is probably a mix of FOM and Ferrari setting certain terms of a licensing agreement. It makes sense that F1 doesn’t want anyone making a game that would cut into Codemasters’ sales, and it would certainly be no surprise to see Ferrari placing restrictions on how their cars are presented in the game. So this post is probably not entirely honest but there’s no conspiracy afoot either.

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      1. ITs a fucking AC fanboy by name of pitcock, or it use to be, could be a copy cat now, when someone posts material bagging AC, this fuck tard comes along and spams that shit in attempt to silence comments, and set spastics like yourself off with lines like “I hate rf2 after reading comments” what kind of moron does that?

        AC full to the brim with fuck head commentators, that sound like they are barely outta diapers, I can still enjoy the game though.

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        1. U got it wrong there Hash. its not me..I’m just a nice kid to like rf2 until the day when this ASSoc arrived n start shilling rf2 n bashing other games on Steam.

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  18. Not being privy to the terms of the licensing agreement, or the negotiations of that agreement, it’s difficult to draw any conclusions about what’s going on here. It does seem a bit silly, and yes Ferrari have always had a stick up their ass about the way their cars are portrayed in games, but if the choice was between this restriction and not having the cars in the game, I think most people are willing to suck it up.

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    1. Pretty much how I feel about it. Bit of a nasty little surprise though, especially if they intend on disabling workarounds.

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  19. Honest question/statement and not meant to start any sort of argument.

    1) What’s wrong with the game if people still have fun playing (I don’t and never have played AC btw)

    2) I find it pretty funny that people expect a video game to be a “true” simulation in the first place. As mentioned in Black Flag, you’re still playing with a plastic toy steering wheel. The physics of a real car, and especially tire model, are impossible to get through said plastic steering wheel, so who really cares if Ferrari wants the performance changed a bit compared to the real car. Who is honestly going to notice except for Massa, Alonso, Kimi and Vettel? You? No. Me? No. Just have a fun and stop complaining about the “simulation value” of a video game.

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      1. I got no idea who the fuck those dudes are and could really care less 🙂 Relax, Ogonoski. RL sports are not as important as you think they are.

        A proper rendition of the physics in relation to the input parameters, on the other hand, is. These rusty buckets can be named whatever the devs want them to be and could have whatever specs were written to the file. However, they should respect that file and act accordingly.

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  20. Since reading this page i started hating rFactor 2, because it seems only a title for psychopaths and assholes or both.

    I did several laps with the P1 and LaFerrari at Imola and got the same results with both (+-0,1 sec). So major misinformation again here apart from the hole story. The only fucking retarded i can see are the blogger and the rF2-spammers.

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    1. It’s funny how you blame a sim for a minor (and deranged) part of its community. AC has much more rabid fanboys, but I guess that doesn’t stop you from enjoying it?

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  21. Holy fuck the shilltards are going at it hard on this one. All i envision when i see these absurd post and repost is some fat fucken neck beards blasting away at their key boards or some paid indian duds going at it while on the clock. There is only one way to settle this dispute properlyand thats with a race, a Death Race.

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  22. There is a special place in hell for these morons who keep posting those giant pictures of “AC is simcade” and “workarounds and substitute models” Ban them Austin.

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