GameStop to the Rescue!

gamestop-rome-shutterstock-photo_1920-0-0This little story over on the official Assetto Corsa forums was handed to me a few days ago, and while it’s not exactly a Reader Submission, I’m going to structure it like one for ease of readability. As you’re all most certainly aware of by now, Assetto Corsa on the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One was a flop. No, people aren’t mad at the fact that it doesn’t have over a thousand cars and seventy tracks; by all accounts the game was basically broken upon launch, with mass reports of intrusive technical issues, and basic gameplay options such as custom lobby support for online racing totally excluded. It’s not something you’d want to purchase for your Xbox One or PlayStation 4. Aside from Kunos Simulazioni appearing to “weaponize” the fanboys, who are adamant that people “just don’t understand what Assetto Corsa is trying to achieve”, it’s extremely clear by now that releasing a product as poor as Assetto Corsa is not the right way to introduce sim racing to a mainstream audience.

Again, this story of a video game store encounter was originally posted on the official Assetto Corsa message board, but moderators quickly locked it due to “unacceptable comments,” so we’re going to talk about it here instead.


14176172304_5f70e6b745_bThe Real Impact of Poor Quality Game Releases

We called into a local electronics & toy store tonight on the school collection run, we were picking up a Skylander figure now they are going cheap, when we encountered this little scene.

A mother, with her son, was requesting a refund on Assetto Corsa from the shop assistant. Her son had been playing the game and was getting headaches because of the “slow background movement, like watching an old movie” and she would not let him play it any longer.

Her requests for a refund were rebuffed many times, she had the receipt for £42.99 but the shop assistant was having none of it. The usual you’ve broken the seal on the game and played it so we can only give you the trade in value was the reply. (This is actually nonsense and breaks both UK and EU law but somehow these shops continue to get away with these excuses). They were offering £12 as trade in price as they already had a high level of used stock in the store. She asked about refunding the game and taking a copy of F1 2016 instead, the store point blank refused.

About ten minutes in it all got very emotional, the mother was explaining that she did not have enough money to buy another game with just £12 trade in. I understand this, games are a luxury item , not everyone has the money for multiple new game releases each month. (And before anyone makes crass replies, have some humanity for those with less than you) The boy wanted her to keep the game but she was having none of it. So now Assetto Corsa really has brought a tear to people’s eyes. The shop are embarrassed but unwilling to budge, no sign of a manager anywhere. I know the boys in the shop and they are not bad lads, just telling the corporate message so I’m not painting them as the bad guys here either. There are some not so good as they are made out guys in this story though.

At that point our kids had played on the demo machines and were ready with their Skylander choices, what a parent trap that is, the things they never tell you about bringing up kids. The argument was continuing so I picked up a copy of F1 2016 for the Xbox One as well. Call me a soft touch but I just couldn’t see this go on any longer. We walked to the till and the assistant started ringing through the items. He noticed the F1 2016 and said “you know you’ve already got this game don’t you, I remember you picking it up”. I replied yes, and the penny started to drop, “Oh you are buying it to give to them aren’t you”. He then disappeared into a back room where I imagine a manager was watching on and returned to sell me F1 2016 at a reduced price.

Our kids gave the F1 2016 game to the surprised boy, they’d been locked in the ever more heated row and noticed none of it. There were more tears but much happier ones. Last I saw the shop were also making the full refund which proves there are still some good people in the world.

The point here is that poorly released games hurt real people who might not have the money to pay for the mistakes of game makers and publishers. I read a lot about how passionate Kunos are and that they really ‘care’ about the game. I really do question if that is true. They didn’t care enough to test it properly on console ,that much is for certain. Depending on your view of people this may mean nothing or a lot to you.
If you’ve got kids you’ll already know that telling them it’ll be fixed in a month just isn’t going to wash.

I think both the publishers and the developers Assetto Corsa need to think a lot harder about the impact of such a poorly produced game and who they might be hurting most.


gtr11This is why shitty games bother me. Personally, I can afford to spent some change on what ends up being a hunk of shit, but I’m still young enough to remember when I had to comb through review sites and determine what I’d like to receive as a reward for good grades. If reviewers lied to me because they were given incentives to write bullshit about a game, or developers fucked up and released a horrid product, that’s what I ended up being stuck with for the next three or four months. I will say I was extremely lucky to be raised in the GameCube/PlayStation 2 generation, where instant classics like Burnout 3: Takedown and NASCAR: Dirt to Daytona seemed to be falling out of the sky on a monthly basis, but I was still left with some clunkers. Dave Mirra Freestyle BMX 2 was an outright mistake, as was Monster Jam: Maximum Destruction despite my love of monster trucks, and who could forget the original Top Gear Rally for the Nintendo 64.

However, I’d say those were easier to stomach back then. Even as a kid or a teenager, you understood the basic concept that some video game companies sucked ass at what they did. I knew going into Dave Mirra’s game that Acclaim was no Activision, and it wouldn’t quite be Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater on two wheels. And I knew with how little press the developers of Top Gear Rally had received in Nintendo Power magazine that it wouldn’t be on-par with masterpieces like Hot Wheels Turbo Racing.

What currently makes this situation worse are comments like these from the developers themselves on social media:

I mean, that’s phenomenal. Y’all have moms dragging their kids to GameStop to Assetto Corsa because it’s in such a fucked up state it’s actually giving the little guy have headaches, and your response is to say you’ve made progress on fixing what is obviously a massive problem, but you’re going on vacation for a bit. Naw dude, just naw. That’s a dipshit move right there. Man, the first Top Gear Rally sucked and isn’t even worth the five minutes spent checking it out in Project 64, but at least I didn’t get to see the developer boast about half-assing the game on social media.

stef1I think our boy MBK72’s observations are correct. Kunos are not passionate; they’ve simply weaponized fanboys into regurgitating bland marketing lines to spread awareness of the product at a ground level. If you want to see passion, just ask Xbox 360 sim racers what they thought of the Project Gotham Racing franchise, PlayStation 2 sim racers what they’d thought of Enthusia, or what anybody who owned a gaming console in 2005 thought of Burnout 3: Takedown. These were games that were made with passion. Assetto Corsa on the other hand? The fuck is this shit?

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120 thoughts on “GameStop to the Rescue!

  1. I am no AC fan nor do I hate it, but I stopped reading here :

    – “I mean, that’s phenomenal. Y’all have moms dragging their kids to GameStop to Assetto Corsa because it’s in such a fucked up state it’s actually giving the little guy have headaches, and your response is to say you’ve made progress on fixing what is obviously a massive problem, but you’re going on vacation for a bit. Naw dude, just naw.”

    That sir is none of your business and honestly sometimes whilst stressed with huge amount of crap to do the best decission one can make. If you ever actually had respnsibllity for something or were snowed under with loads of crap you’d know. I do not look up or defend Stephano, usually I find his way of communicating things with your “avarage custommer” rather odd but kudos to him for not giving a shit in this case. Actually it should be considered as normal you just made it a topic here.

    The same usually I think about this blog but not this time. It is simply none of your business no matter what, even if you run out of milk at home and your mum doesn’t serve you breakfast anymore. Even if the fucking game doesn’t get updated ever again TBH.

    This is just bollocks. You’re better of with getting this slipping down fast or deleting or just simply let it roll over you lol. action – reaction 😛

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    1. And is not like 4 days of vacation will delay the update. Updates on console take time until they are approved for release. Specially since after Stefano working on this problem, there’s another dev who works directly with the console and ports this on it. I really doubt 4 days of his vacation will delay the update on console or delay the fix to these problems. Most likely he gave plenty of work for the other devs to do and port until he’s doing the vacation, then gets back and still has more time to work on the console problems until they can submit the update for final approval.

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  2. The stupid kid needed a good belt around the head, if he’s getting motion sickness with AC hell get it with F1 2016, why blame AC for some stupid kids motion sickness??
    And the guy who bought him the game is an A Grade imbecile
    This really is new lows for PRC

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      1. You know who needs a good belt around her head, thats his stupid mother who’s snotty nosed kid gets motion sickness on a game, So she takes it back in tears and expects Gamestop to pick up her loss, THEN she wants another racing game where the cars GO FASTER so her dopey kid will get even sicker.
        This is called mental illness, she is giving it to her poor kid too, this is why mental illness carries on through the generations.

        But just when you couldn’t think it could get any more mentally ill, PRC’s DOES A BLOG ON IT BLAMING THE DEVS, FFS GOD GIVE ME STRENGTH!

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        1. SORRY forgot the best part, then some imbecile nice guy comes and buys the kid a game that he’s going to get more motion sickness playing then he’s mums going to come back and ask for a refund again BWAHAHAHAHAHA FUCK ME

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      2. James you are jealous because you simply can’t handle the physics of Assetto Corsa so you hate, learn to drive and improve yourself before you hate on games!
        Have you ever even won a race?

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    1. Overwhelming success? Last time I tired to get a race there were 12 in fucking total online. 12 out of a possible 40 million is what you call overwhelming success?

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  3. James come find me at my address:25 83DZthe Hague. That’s where I’m abusing Ian Bell with substitute work arounds in certain cavity physics collapsing under collision. My cock and ego will only improve with James’s feminine complaining sperm up my anushole of doom.

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  4. Real question is: what that douchebag of a moderator thought was so “unacceptable” that he had to lock the thread for literally no reason? That’s some nazi-level censorship, right there.

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      1. So fabricating a story, assuming it’s true, is a valid reason for censoring a discussion as if it was a personal offence towards the “moderator”?

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            1. What has the thread really contributed to? There were some quite disrespectful comments there that have nothing to do with the game or the game issues.

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              1. Disrespectful to whom, exactly? Saying the game on console is all but polished is an objective fact. If you’re so offended by reality, you should just kill yourself so that we have more free air to breath.

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  5. There is one positive to have come out of AC’s console launch: that child’s name was Albert Einstein, and he went on to develop the general theory of relativity. So now Assetto Corsa really has brought a tear to people’s eyes.

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  6. “Whether it’s F1 cars from the 1960s, ’70s or ’80s, or classic sportscars and touring cars including early ’90s DTM machinery, Assetto Corsa offers handling models for historic racers that far surpass anything else offered in console gaming.

    The game’s designers have looked beyond the lazy approach of “old cars must be nearly impossible to drive”, instead creating a rewarding feeling where the classic machinery moves around a lot, but in a progressive, controllable way with lap time benefits for those able to hustle a car in the middle of the corner”

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/126147/game-review-assetto-corsa

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  7. Hey Stefano, try locking the comments section now you fucking manchild. You can’t do shit over here, and we are free to discuss what we want about your broken game without the threat of getting banned.

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  8. The driving physics itself is the only thing in this game where I get the feeling that passion was involved. All the other areas, like AI, collision physics, menus, multiplayer in general, HUD, pitstops etc. are only there because you literally can’t release a racing game without them or people kept nagging the devs – and they feel exactly like that, made “to be done with it” with any passion at all.

    It’s almost like Alfa Romeo in the 1990s where they regurgitated the “soul and passion” bullshit when promoting cars that were obviously rebadged Fiat shitboxes developed without any passion at all.

    This it comes out of Italy – it must be full of passion idiocy needs to stop. Sometimes, actually a lot of times, Italians just don’t give a fuck.

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    1. Luckily, the new Giulia is as far from being a rebadged Fiat as possible, unless there’s a 510 bhp RWD Fiat around 🙂

      I wonder what makes fanboys fanboys. What kind of a fucked-up psychological mechanism that exists deep in their heads and makes them so eager to believe in, accept, embrace and worship somebody else’s opinions and views, even though a blind eye could see it is just bullshit. They just switch off their critical thinking, or any thinking at all for that matter, shut their eyes and gladly swallow the shit they are fed. It’s not just games of course, but all other apsects in life, from politics to religion. They are just a fucking blind alley of evolution.

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      1. True, and then there are also people who are blind and identify everyone as fanboy and turn off their critical thinking only because what he said about something or a game doesn’t go towards what they think. So when someone doesn’t think a game is good, doesn’t like it, then every person who shows praise to the work, the game, the gameplay, gets labeled as shill or fanboy.

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  9. You see problems with more than weird physics or AI physics, that can well be problems with how the game engine or parts of the software were ported to console, and related to console system. Because some of the problems appearing there weren’t ever seen in the pc version. So these are new not anticipated problems that not always appear during testing.
    Besides all that, the console version for physics and AI are still behind the PC version.

    All these situations show that the game wasn’t still ready to release on consoles, but sometimes after a few delays you have to release on that date, and whatever problems come from there, hopefully will be dealt in upcoming updates.

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  10. We will never know if the mother comes back to return F1 2016 because of the same problems. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-f1-2016-face-off

    “On initial impressions, F1 2016 is clearly moving in the right direction, but once we get racing, it’s clear that not every aspect of the game shows the same marked improvement. Codemasters targets 60fps for consoles, but performance once again fails to hit this target solidly on either platform with frame-rate drops and screen-tear compromising the experience to a degree. It’s a similar situation to last year’s game, which is a little disappointing given the welcome refinements in other areas.”

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  11. Dude, the sarcasm was pretty obvious when people said you should write an article on this.

    In other news…I just gave $10 to iRacing and feel disappointed in myself.

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  12. Kunos Simulazioni is the enemy of all children. What’s next, James? Someone’s dog got offended over the cat image on the box?
    AC is crappy in many ways, no doubt about that. Doesn’t need you should jump at every glimpse of a chance to paint Kunos black. They are black enough as they are.

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    1. lol at you… You’re telling James that and you do the same thing in your comment. You calling out James while doing the same thing… “AC is crappy in many ways”, “They are black enough as they are”, are on the same level of what James usually writes in his blog entries.

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      1. The same thing? I simply admit that AC leaves a lot to be desired. As a game for some, as a sim for me.
        It’s just that using kids, animals, any other tearjerkers to have a go at a simulations developer is a bit low even for this blog. I guess it’s just one of those days for James when he’d better keep this all to himself or risk losing the last remnants of credibility altogether.

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  13. I agree that developers need to stop putting out unfinished games. Other than that, I have no idea what the point of this article is. That gamestop article is a bunch of melodramatic nonsense as far as I’m concerned. Oh it’s so awful, people are getting hurt because games are unfinished. Give me a break. It’s a video game, not some life altering event. It’s not like Kunos gave some 8 year old cancer or something. I don’t feel sorry for people who don’t do their research, buy shit products and then bitch about them. You want developers to finish games? Don’t buy ones that aren’t complete products. That’s literally the solution.

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  14. Complete products.. buy what you like or think you’ll like. There are many complete boring products out there where I’d take an unfinished/work in progress game any time over standard complete products.

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    1. Can’t agree more. These days it looks almost like it’s either finished and polished, yet you’d die of boredom while using it… or it’s something fresh, interesting and exciting… when it actually works.

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      1. Not that AC is really worth the trouble, but at least it’s not all that bad either. It’s possible to have fun with it. They just need to look realistically on what they think they should really ask for an underdeveloped product like this. Same goes to ISI.

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  15. Responsive parents should at least google a game before buying, best wait a week after release and then google it. Thats the reason why children can not buy stuff on their own and thats what parents are for.
    Stefano´s comment was about physics and basic driving ability when the console guys complained about “difficulty” of the game.
    Based on how Kunos handled the PC version of the game, bugfixing and listening to the customers, I am pretty confident that they will fix the bugs and bring the console version to a usable state regarding performance, FFB and all technical stuff. But it will never be a “game”, no serious sim is, it will never be for people who play for a few weeks or months and then forget about it.

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  16. you all are fucking stupid. ALL of you sucking kunos cock too, the game “sim” is shit. Get over yourselves. Put the fucking kool aid down. It’s against the law to reject the refund, did any of you shitheads read that part? Fucking queers, the lot of you. If I bought this shit game for my kid, and he or she got headaches from playing it because of fucking stupid Kunos bullshit, lol.. Yes I would get my money back.. no questions asked.. It would happen. Fucking sheep you people are, open your fucking eyes, dipshits

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    1. and if it’s a made up story, well then that’s bullshit too.. Doesn’t change the fact the this game “not sim” is shit. Shit, it’s unengaging, boring, the AI is garbage, the career is more garbage. The game is garbage.. Eat it Kunos shill boys. Suck on that smooth cock all day whole you’re at it lol. And “james” if this is a made up story, at least you made me post on a site for the 1st time in a LONG time, lol good job. The rest of you; fuck off. And Stephano, eat the biggest bag of dicks with no handles.. You and Ian Bell, share it. You two are of the same ilk. Fucking liars. You don’t care about me? LOL, shithead you are. Be a man about your bullshit, fucking child. Love tuff guy internet talk, send me an email, let’s chat about it lol… Ahh felt good, thanks men

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    1. You must be mad or can’t read and post only what you think you know without gathering new information. They already informed they made good progress of the issues that were urgent to fix first. To be seen in the next console updates.

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  17. I would consider teaching this spoilt kid some humility with a belt, when I was a little kid we were happy to play Amiga Formula Grand Prix at 12 fps with a 12-inch monitor.

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    1. He probably heard a lot about AC’s “realism” and wanted the title to boast about mastering it later. Couldn’t figure out even this half-assed physics, so decided to fake headache and stuff hoping to swap AC in for even a gamier crap.

      One thing James is right about, however… This is indeed probably the worst place to get sim related news. He was becoming progressively infantile over time, now he’s churning out sappy “articles”. Somebody bloody gift him a copy of F1 2016 to keep him occupied. Bet he’ll find enough opponents online in that title. Whiny kids like the one described here. Whiny kids like himself.

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      1. Man you shills are absolutely pathetic. There are well-documented technical problems with AC. Fact. There are also portions of this story not related to Assetto Corsa which indicate this scenario truly did happen.

        I was a kid once. Micro Machines for the N64 was returned because it was awful, as was F1 2015. That was my first time testing out Steam’s refund system. Second time was The Crew, which didn’t even boot for me. This is like a normal thing for people to return games.

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        1. Are you an idiot? To be called a “shill” I need to at least have some affinity for AC. If I can be called a shill for anything, then maybe it’s Automobilista. If so, that makes you an R3E shill 🙂

          AC is ridden with issues and boasts mediocre physics at best, no doubt about that. You can still have a little fun with it… on a PC. And yes, refunds are a good thing.

          It’s the turning the sad jerk into a monster that would rob a child of a candy that really stinks about this article of yours, James.

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  18. I´m getting motion sickness of “The Witness” and “The Talos Principle” and sometimes the F1 games as well. Can you write some hate speeches against this titles, please?

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  19. Been reading the stuff on this page quite a bit, haven’t said much.

    But Kunos is clearly a self-centered uber-douche with no real management value. That much is QUITE clear. Vacation aside, he clearly has no concern for his customers, the few he may have at this point. “We don’t understand what he’s trying to accomplish?” Yes, yes we do, it’s called take the money and run, and we’ve seen it enough times to call it for what it is here.

    I read someone above knocking the kid for having headaches from poor frame-rates or what have you, and I realize that the Kunos shills really are soulless ass-hats. I thought they were bad on the forums/reddit, but it seems they like taking things to a new level with each new piece that exposes just how horrendous the game is, and how bad of a person Kunos is.

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    1. New kid do you happen to be instrested about male only sex orgys that I’m organizing? I won’t invite Stefano if it bothers you too much.

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      1. James and Hash come find me at my address:25 83DZthe Hague. That’s where I’m abusing Ian Bell with substitute work arounds in certain cavity physics collapsing under collision. My cock and ego will only improve with James’s feminine complaining sperm up my anushole of doom.

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              1. Do ya homework ya knob, your “mom” hates the fact you spend all day on here fantasizing about cocks, how many times can you type “cocks” without thinking about it 24hours a day? some serious mental gymnastics you doing I guess.

                Good to see you in overdrive again defending kunos “honour”, I particularly like your random praising of AC on this article,looks totally legit! replying to your self is icing on the cake, you do the AC community proud no doubt.

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  20. The story was handed to you…you mean somebody wrote it as unrelated comment in the previous article comments asking you to cover that bullshit and here you are. I mean there are kids not having enough to eat and die from sickness and this poor little brat got a headache from gaming with his PS4 and wants another game to play, poor kid really what a sad sad story (sniffing teardrops into tissue,..), so lucky an angel appeared and bought him F1 2016 thank god finally some real christians around at gamestop. Also you should die of anal cancer for having hated on dave mirra pro bmx 2, which shows you clearly know nothing about bmx riding and were dissappointed not finding it to be a tony hawks pro skater game with bmx involved, you probably missed mat hoffman pro bmx 2 that was the game you searched, say everything about dave mirra 2 BUT it was the best bmx related game for the riding, control and trick variety only thing that it needed was some dedication and a good amount of practice, this shows you never really bothered to properly learn how to play the game and your approach to games, you aspect an easy game with some fancy animated graphical menu shit and career mode with people talking you trough and let you feel you are part in of the game, sir you are the definition of simcade.

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  21. Wow this comment section really makes my blood boil,I can’t even begin to word how fuking sick you childish mentally broken bratts make me.
    You all should have been shot on the carpet,or the Dr should have strangled you with your umbilical cords.
    This fucking generation of kids are pathetic

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  22. poor kid, hopefully he will find a better game and no need to drop tears because the game was so bad it crushed his childhood memories forever. Also about taking 4 days of vacation after releasing such a broken mess, which sick bastard developer does that to his customers, you are utterly right this cunts destroyed simracing, thanks for the insite

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    1. Dude.. talk about being manipulated by “journalism”.

      Stefano and Marco said they made good progress on the critical fixes for the console update, in respect about performance and screen tearing. Then is time for the console dev to port it to the consoles as well, among other fixes specific for consoles.

      You say like he went to 4 days vacation while work was needed, but he did the work before going to his short vacations. And he’s only one in the team. There are people working in other things.

      Many jobs in the world don’t work like a school where everyone takes vacation at the same time. Each has a part of the year or each may divide it by days of vacation. So now was Stefano’s turn, he left but he made his work on the critical issues before leaving. And he’s back now working on more things before they can submit the update for consoles approval.

      If only some people would think for themselves before eating anything “news” tell them. Some people think they are revolutionaries and no one controls them, but they are the easiest to be manipulated.

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