Everyone is Being Retarded

ac-porsche-3There aren’t any winners in this argument.

For those of you who are maybe just making the rounds of their favorite sim racing news outlets, you’ve undoubtedly discovered there’s a bit of an uproar within the Assetto Corsa community. We’ve known for a while now that Kunos Simulazioni will bringing a pair of Porsche DLC packs to their highly popular yet fundamentally flawed racing simulator, re-introducing an iconic brand of sports cars to the niche market of sim racing after years of exclusivity deals held by Electronic Arts – restricting the German manufacturer to casual-oriented Need for Speed games, with the occasional Forza Motorsport diversion. The content is highly anticipated by virtually all PC sim racers, as it serves to fill the final gap of sorts in Assetto Corsa’s car roster, allowing virtual motoring enthusiasts to play with all major European sports car brands under one roof. In theory, it should be something to celebrate, right?

Wrong.

As is customary with the massive add-on car bundles you’ll see for games like Forza Motorsport, as well as previous Assetto Corsa DLC packs, one free car is released alongside the pack as a teaser of sorts to give users an idea of what to expect from the premium purchase. Rarely is it ever anything special or noteworthy; instead serving as a way to download the content onto your console in order to compete in online lobbies and physically see the proper car model of your opponent – who did buy the premium DLC bundle. Assetto Corsa fans have had years to figure out that the free car is usually something people won’t drive, and they’re better off just outright buying the DLC pack. It’s honestly not some life-changing investment that requires careful consideration, especially if you’re already putting a ton of hours into Assetto Corsa and spent hundreds on a fancy toy steering wheel. It’s a ten dollar car pack. Change your large coffee to a small and pick it up on the following Friday if it’s such a big deal. I shouldn’t have to hold your hands on this one.

In keeping with the tradition of free cars being less than inspiring diversions, Kunos Simulazioni made the “free trial cars” a totally pointless pair of Porsche SUV’s typically piloted by desperate housewives, alongside a sedan that basically nobody would ever want to drive in a racing simulator, the Porsche Panamera. Assetto Corsa fans freaked. I mean, they were livid at Kunos Simulazioni intentionally making the free cars complete pieces of shit that nobody would ever be interested in racing. Even though pushing out useless free content has been a common practice for years within the entire genre of driving games, and hardcore sim racers were typically used to spending hundreds on fancy plastic steering wheels – so a ten dollar car pack really shouldn’t be a problem – a free car sent them off the rails.

I’m going to defend Kunos on this one. The sim racing community is being absolutely fucking retarded. Yes, it’s cheeky for a developer to use god-awful soccer mom crossovers as a “teaser” to a highly anticipated piece of race car DLC, but you knew  several years ahead of time that they were going to do this. There are much bigger things to shit on Kunos Simulazioni for; this isn’t one of them.

ac-porsche-7But just how Kunos handled all of this is something we should be discussing. Ever since this game was thrust into the public spotlight during the fall of 2013, the Kunos Simulazioni staff have been notorious for engaging in petty fights with the sim racing community when they simply didn’t need to. If I had to take a guess, I’d say the company simply doesn’t have any sort of PR guy, and if they do, he’s paid to merely reply to angry console owners on Facebook with the same five preset statements. We began the year with Stefano fighting with people on RaceDepartment. In an extremely suspicious move, Marco Massarutto randomly went on an unprovoked rant that discussed how all versions of Assetto Corsa were the same – something that was demonstrably false when the console version landed on store shelves a week or so later. Then we have the token giga-thread where the hilarious phrase Have Fun or Get Out was dropped, and who can forget the day the team axed the entire modding community after two and a half years of first party support?

I’ve never seen any developer actively do everything in their power to tarnish relationships with their customers in the way Kunos Simulazioni have done over the past ten months. This is a situation in which these guys didn’t even need to respond in the first place. I mean, who gives a shit if people are moaning about a free car? I can understand if people are choked that the game is broken and are looking for answers as to when it will be fixed, but a free piece of DLC is so far down the totem pole it doesn’t even matter if you address it or not. Put it out on the marketplace, let people buy it or ignore it, the end. So why in the fuck does their reaction – which is basically isolated to a few sim racing message boards – upset you enough to go on a tirade against your users? This is something that is a literal non-issue and does not need any sort of official response from the team. Instead, now they look like assholes by getting into a shit-flinging contest when they should be hard at work improving the console version of Assetto Corsa, which last time I checked still isn’t anywhere near satisfactory according to the comments on their own forum.

It’s really starting to sink in why this game failed to live up to expectations. Kunos Simulazioni spent more time becoming emotionally invested in petty message board fights than working on their product – and this has been a staple of their development process dating back to the netKar Pro days. The whole thing is becoming increasingly pathetic to view from the sidelines.

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92 thoughts on “Everyone is Being Retarded

  1. On the one hand, what were Kunos thinking including these cars in the game? Did they think anyone would find them interesting? To me it’s just another example of Kunos putting too much emphasis on road cars, but this is particularly irksome as SUVs have no place in a game like this.

    On the other hand, they didn’t have to release anything for free, and anyone complaining about free content is just an entitled asshole. However, I am baffled at how easily senior figures at Kunos are goaded into petty internet fights. It’s really unprofessional and reflects poorly on their company. I sure as hell wouldn’t want to have a professional relationship with people like that.

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    1. Those cars are part of licencing agreement .. just like Maserati Levant … Basically if you wanna licence for our interesting cars you need to include cars we are selling on market

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      1. I’ve only heard it second hand (from someone who does make driving games professionally) but the license gets much cheaper if you include cars the company is interested in marketing. So if it costs the company $10k to develop the sim Panamera, but it cuts $100k off the license fee, well… it’s a foregone conclusion that they would go for it. You have to take care of your business.

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    2. The PC community is still eating their prima donna shit time after time. Keeping Stefano out of the spotlight is the most important thing, but when the rest of the team is almost as nuts, it won’t do any good in the long run.

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          1. Would you lick my feckie? im looking for love.

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    3. This is the problem. Not the free car.

      I hope, at least, that Porsche forced the Cayenne and Panamera on them, but if they actually chose those

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    4. I completely agree with you, except about the SUVs not having a place.

      I personally found it quite fun to hustle that pigfat Maserati around the Nordschleife by myself once. Probably not gonna touch this again, but those were fun three laps! I think the road cars are really the bread and butter of that game. When I want to be serious, I boot up rFactor 2 or AMS, but when I want to dick around in road cars, it’s AC most of the time.

      I think people want the devs to steer that game in a more serious direction, but Kunos aren’t interested. I’m not sure why they complain about these SUVs though instead about the poor pitstops, AI, server admin tools or multiplayer collision physics though. Probably because they are crazy fanboys or something.

      I will definitely take the Panamera for a spin once it comes out to satisfy my curiosity how fast a sedan can really be.

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  2. Only the typical circlejerk is complaining about a dev team voicing their opinion and somehow explaining their decisions.
    Everyone knows exactly how to make a game, how to make physics, how to do PR. Everyone has a perfect life with perfect character and with a perfect salary.
    And then they wake up and complain about how others run their stuff.

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  3. There are as many or more race cars in Assetto Corsa your PORSCHE simulator than most titles offer even if it does have a bunch of street cars.

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  4. I thought it was a sensible and measured response from Kunos. Of course PRC acts like it’s some kind of embarrassing PR faux pas. Reaching for something to be outraged about like so many millennials.

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  5. Holy shit, can’t believe they even put out a statement on this one, ffs. Just say what it is as you release it and don’t try to present it as new content. This is such amateur bullshit. Who is is doing their PR

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    1. They? A dev posted on facebook his opinion about what people were saying of these free cars getting in the game.

      You are more concerned about getting an “all is well” PR message than hearing what a person that works on the game has to say.

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  6. Kunos are such condescending pricks, and they throw hissy fits every time people call them out on their bullshit. FUCK KUNOS

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  7. Why this does sound like FGC reacting to Decapre (Ultra Street Fighter IV)? People were hyped for the all-new character… then angry when it was a “clone” of Cammy.

    Of course, eventually, there will be a niche of for-fun racers finding a challenge in the SUVs…

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  8. Heres a guy complaining about people complaining about a free car.
    Whats worse i ask you?
    The people who complain?
    O James, the guy who complains about people complaining.

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  9. James do you have to be so cheap to use the word retarded in a negative light, if you have a retarded child one day you will look back and realise how much of a tool you are using the word, its not cool in the slightest, nor is it funny.

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      1. Well to avoid pulling a Gangi and having bored sim racers discover the PRC equivalent of finding Jessica Lopez on a sugar daddy outlet, I’ll go the Glasnost route and confirm there’s at least one girl I’ve slept with that would strangle me if she had the chance.

        The info is indeed out there and fairy easy to find, but I do not suggest tracking her down, even as a joke. She is very sick, and would shit up the comments section here in a way that would make Associat0r look small-time.

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  10. >I mean, who gives a shit if people are moaning about a free car?

    I assume people want a decent free car as a sort of unspoken consolation for Kunos not fixing their broken game. The fact that Kunos is only interested in nickel-and-diming users with DLC shit instead of fixing critical issues these days, is why the users who aren’t gullible fucks are becoming increasingly fed up with them. Add on putting the kibosh on the modding forum, and taking aggressive actions against people posting criticism, and well this is where we’re at.

    Personally, I don’t play the game anymore since it blows; so I’m not affected by their bullshit anymore, which is nice.

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  11. I can already feel that this Porsche DLC will be a majorly big commercial success for Kunos, while few nerds are complaining on forums as usual, thousands will be playing it.

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  12. I wonder if that Johnnypenso clown on GTPlanet will still think if Kunos are the good guys in sim racing after this shit. It seems like Kunos goes into full defense mode anytime there’s any criticism at all on their product. I thought it was just Stefano that was the insecure one out of Kunos, but it seems like the whole team is too.

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  13. “I’ve never seen any developer actively do everything in their power to tarnish relationships with their customers in the way Kunos Simulazioni have done over the past ten months.”

    Payday 2 with Overkill? Do you even follow videogames? Kunos stating the obvious doesn’t even come close to how Overkill went to war with their fanbase over pay to win microtransactions just last year.

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    1. I don’t play Payday, but if it is just exploiting people’s wallets then it can’t be so bad. I’m thinking of the fucking clown behind Rust adding character customization into the game but making it random and permanent for all the players, so they’d be forced to play as a lanky negro forever or whatever else the random number generator decided, to make a point about social justice and how people don’t choose their race or gender in real life. Taking options away from the players and calling them racists or cis scum for complaining is hard to top.

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  14. You see when a company like Kunos is first to release Porsche cars in 10 years in any PC sim it creates a lot of jealousy in the community, this jealousy is directly being reflected here on PRC comment section.

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  15. James come find me at my address:25 83DZthe Hague. That’s where I’m anally fucking my buddies at when not with my Philippine whore or making shit simcade titles to fund my prolapsed state to infinity. My cock and ego will only improve with James’ feminine complaining sperm up my anushole of doom.

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  16. PLEASE HELP ME………I HAVE A LITTLE TOY PORSCHE IN MY ANAL CAVITY, KUNOS DROVE IT IN THERE FOR FREE….I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA, THEY SAID IT WAS FREE BUT NOW IT JUST HURTS……….PLEASE YOURE MY ONLY HOPE PRC

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  17. Kunos should have known better than trying to present some petty product placement as an act of profound generosity. They should have placed the cars in the game more or less silently, then the community would not react the way they didn’t like. Well, what did they expect? If you are forcing an ad onto someone, at least don’t act as if you are making them a huge favor.

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    1. This is the source for these free cars, someone asked him if Porsche Caynne is coming to AC on his personal twitter and he simply replied that it’s coming for free, totally unreasonable.

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        1. Kunos should just kept it at that. A single tweet and a single or triple line in the changelog, not “look what we got for you here!!! A Cayenne!!! For free!!!”. As if more than a handful would actually spend their money on something like that.

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  18. The Panamera is pretty quick, it may fit in decently with some other vehicles on track.

    The SUVs will be a problem if people try to mix them into MP sessions. I can see trolls jumping in now and bashing everyone off the track.

    Anyways, yeah, this is not the hill to die on with regards to complaints against Kunos.

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  19. Funny enough, when I went to Exotics Racing in Vegas, our 2 scouting laps were done in a Porsche Cayenne. With R compounds and aggressive brake pads it was pretty impressive.

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    1. With good drivers and the right selection of tracks/competing vehicles, it could make for some very interesting racing.

      That’s not how it would go down in the average MP pickup though.

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  20. This is Italian culture to a T. They get very offended when people criticize them in any way/fashion. To them, it is like people are making fun of their infant child.

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    1. But people are doing exactly that for no reason. They are being very harsh in constantly expressing their vision for the game. No matter how much you think you’re right about how AC should be and what content should have, Kunos thinks what’s good for most people, not only what specific groups want for it. Because if we let specific groups make the decisions, then we have rf2 that needed to be sold away. No hard feeling to isi company, just that their user base is more concerned with how AC’s doing than actually giving relevant feedback to their game. Of course specific groups also have good ideas, so devs can take feedback from all parts and try to implement if is good or necessary.

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      1. I guess you are from a region of the world or even Europe where people must behave like robots socially. There are countries where the take on life and within society is different. We can’t all be like like you’re used to be.
        And you’re exaggerating, there was nothing baby in Marco’s comment. But now devs must shut up or write standard messages that were thought out by a team of 5 PR over 2 months?
        Is odd how you don’t like when devs speak like people but you incentivize when people speak like animals (ok.. people) on the forum for whatever the game does or how the game is.

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        1. As professionals and representatives of a company they should know better than to conduct themselves in such a way. They are clearly a bunch of immature hotheads if this is all it takes for them to start slinging shit on the internet. Stefano and Marco should know better than to spout off the way they have a habit of doing. It doesn’t matter what you think of the game, this is unacceptable behavior. I suppose you think the way Ian Bell goes off on people is just “speaking like a normal person” too?

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          1. What way really, what did Marco say that got you so negatively triggered? I bet you didn’t even read his message and you will now just to answer back to me by taking some word as offensive only to support the point you made before reading what the dev actually said.

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              1. You’re not his boss nor he’s your boss to what things you say here.

                Maybe we should make a deal and devs stop talking about the game on social media and you close the blog. So? I thought so.

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                1. As long as I decide where my money goes, he’s my boss, and I’m very disappointed. I don’t want to fund little Italian babies.

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              2. Is very odd that you’re trying to stop devs talking about the game or about what the community does or says, because you think they’re damaging the image or something… but your blog is the very foundation of damaging the image of most if not all sims. You only destruct and not construct.

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                1. No one is expressing frustration about the fact that devs talk about the game. The problem is that they talk about the game in an immature manner when they should just rise above it and keep quiet. Your efforts to analogize their behavior to a blogger’s behavior don’t hold up; it’s honestly two completely different situations. You are, quite clearly, a Kunos apologist and a shill for Assetto Corsa.

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                    1. Jesus fucking christ it’s the fact that they as software developers felt the need to even respond to a handful of people whining on the forums about some obscure issue in the first place.

                      Could you imagine if the Madden devs got their panties in a twist and felt the need to make public Facebook responses to every little cuntnugget on the forums complaining about the Bucs unis being the wrong shade of red? There wouldn’t BE a Madden 17 at that rate.

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          2. “As professionals and representatives of a company they should know better than to conduct themselves in such a way.”

            Lol, remember when ppl was asking for more (car) setup options and certain setup quirks to be fixed, and Stefano on one of his streams, responded basically saying the vast majority of ppl that played AC was retarded and wouldn’t understand any advanced setup options anyway so was pointless adding…..

            Yeah that was one of my faves.

            Oh and how about the one about major MP issues getting sorted, and their response was no one wants to play MP anyway, must of been because of the awesome AI and career mode, never did they think “hey maybe ppl arent playing much MP because it was a FUCKING mess”.

            Fun fact, Italian men spend the longest in western society at their “moms”, with the average Italian man leaving child hood home in late twenty’s.

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            1. If you as a Scottish left house much earlier than other cultures who do it later in their 20s.. you’re no better socially. All the time insulting and being aggressive to people.

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              1. “All the time insulting and being aggressive to people.”

                If you think thats aggressive I suggest you dont go out at night and stay away from sharp objects,as for insults,it was a fact, and a bit of a ribbing….

                Dictionary: cause you sound angry and Italian
                ——————————————————————————————————————-
                Ribbing
                2.
                informal
                good-natured teasing.
                “he took a good deal of ribbing with the utmost good humour””
                ————————————————————————————————————
                of which you did not take with good humour, your not very good at this game, I could of thought of a million “scottish” or indeed “kiwi” insults to throw back.

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                1. silly you thinking I mean only your previous post. Articles and articles where you could comment as a normal person towards others, but instead you mostly choose the way of insults and harshness. Very likely you had that kind of education or grew up in that kind of environment, so now you’re giving back to others what you learned and adopted. This can be undone.

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                  1. “silly you thinking I mean only your previous post.”

                    Well no, I meant other posts too, you gave it away when you said, and I quote, “All the time”.

                    “This can be undone.”

                    And I can make you a man, maybe we can make a Doco/film, coming of age type thing, You could teach me the way of zen, and I could show how to grow a pair, go out at night unafraid,build a fence,take you to a working class pub and teach you how to dock a sheep,might even throw in a legit kiwi pig hunt if you got enough cash, hows that for a deal, we’ll call it “Snowflake meets a man” or some such…

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        2. This is not socially, this is a business. I’ve never even seen any of the comments big baby was responding to, and after seeing Stefano’s trashy attitude towards his own customers and now this, I’m not sure they should be getting my money any more. Any excuse nowadays is good enough to shit on the customer, and Baby Marco, which his shitty comparisons and “coffee-a-day-level nonsense” should just shut the fuck and crawl under his Italian mama’s skirt if he can’t handle a few trolls and morons (still have no proof that they exist or harassed Kunos in any way) complaining about free shit no one cares about.

          If this was a publicity stunt to detract from the fact the their console release is garbage and to weaponize the remaining fanboys Kunos has, good job! If you can’t handle dealing with the public, let someone else handle it.

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          1. The fact is that you wouldn’t buy whatever dlc there would be. You’re just using the excuse of devs responding to users.
            Only the typical circlejerk gets triggered whenever a dev talks, because they are the ones constantly talking shit about the game and the devs. The rest of the community takes well devs interaction, so there’s that.

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            1. LOL The entire point of this article is that the console community DOESN’T, in fact, “takes well devs interaction”. Especially when they have en entire game to fix.

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            2. I have bought everything up until the little 3-car pack. Not buying this for sure! I wouldn’t want one of the Italian babies to say later on that I should consider myself lucky the DLC pack wasn’t more expensive! Bye, big babies.

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  21. well the suv´s are crap no question, infact they should have added some nice free car like a 9ff or other niche tuned porsches, red also a funny sentence on the boards “we are lucky that porsche doesnt build tractors anymore”… So even if Marco wanted to make us happy with the SUVs he should instead post a pic of his naked cavity which would be far more usable and will even last longer as memory in our heads than this mislead porsches.

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    1. > “we are lucky that porsche doesnt build tractors anymore”
      That’s one spot on comment for sure 🙂 I would probably prefer a tractor to the SUVs though. At least tractors usually don’t look that ugly and might very well be more fun to drive.

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  22. VirtualR.net is moderated by a fascist censoring comments left and right because he doesn’t like them even though they don’t break any rules of that site.

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