“I Don’t Know What to Make of This.”

Review copies of Assetto Corsa for the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One have landed in the hands of gaming journalists around the world – but not everyone is satisfied with the product they’ve been given to critique – in fact, some actually require assistance. After numerous delays on the part of Kunos Simulazioni to ensure the game was ready for the notoriously demanding console audience, Reddit user KSDemon – who claims to be an anonymous journalist with an advanced copy of Assetto Corsa for the PlayStation 4 – states the game is nowhere near what the sim community makes it out to be, and is so confused at his experience with the game’s overall quality compared to the common consensus, he believes it’s his fault.

Yet Demon himself is clearly not the cause of Assetto Corsa’s numerous glaring issues – he goes on to describes a “cheaply made” product riddled with monstrous technical problems which constantly interrupt core gameplay. Criticisms of the highly respected PC racing simulator are not aimed at the lack of content or absence of a compelling campaign mode; Demon instead paints a picture of a title that features a phenomenal driving physics engine bundled inside a shovelware-like package – quite common for software published by 505 Games.

It’s not hard to understand his frustration and confusion. Thanks to a devilish combination of pushover editors, obsessive fanboys, private press events at Vallelunga, and hostile developers, criticism of Assetto Corsa simply hasn’t been allowed to circulate outside of the containment zone known as PRC.net. Editors spent years downplaying obvious flaws to remain on amicable terms with Kunos Simulazioni, journalists were flown out to the Vallelunga circuit for private parties and given track time in expensive supercars in exchange for positive coverage, and both developers and fanboys alike conspired to label all valid critical comments as fictional hate campaigns led by deranged sim racers.

And this was the result: Kunos Simulazioni spent so much time fighting people they deemed to be “trolls”, the final product suffered.

Users show up en masse to both downvote and debate the findings of KSDemon, but even facing a barrage of viral marketers he continues to describe his experience with the simulator in great detail. In an especially pathetic display, some users encourage him to sign up on the official forums and report bugs to Kunos, completely omitting the fact that this guy is not a dweeby basement dweller willing to spend months on the forums sucking off developers and becoming enthralled in the cult of personality surrounding Kunos Simulazioni. Vehicles launch into the air at random, the framerate drops during simple tasks like revving the engine, and the visuals are said to be extremely dated.

And this was after a pre-release patch.

All reviewers look for different elements that matter to them when analyzing a video game for their audience, and I’m no different. When our review of NASCAR Heat 2016 drops later this year, I’ll probably rip the game to shreds for getting Danica Patrick’s livery wrong, while other editors may not see this as an issue to begin with. That’s okay, it’s the beauty of having multiple review outlets to begin with.

However, with what KSDemon has written about the PlayStation 4 version of Assetto Corsa, I encourage all of you to take any positive review of this game with a grain of salt – there is a chance they are being dishonest about the quality of the game due to external influences. Save yourself some money and wait for the bugs to be ironed out before you bust out the credit card.

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177 thoughts on ““I Don’t Know What to Make of This.”

  1. Pretend Race Cars wrote:

    James posted: ” Review copies of Assetto Corsa for the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One have landed in the hands of gaming journalists around the world – but not everyone is satisfied with the product they’ve been given to critique – in fact, some actually require assistance”

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    1. KSDemon is a name James thought up to create an account to do more shilling for AC and its getting a bit over the top now, as if KSDemon is not just an alter ego.

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  2. So it begins…

    Also I love how the guy is being downvoted for expressing reasonable criticism and stating several times that he is making an effort to understand the game and is going in with an open mind. The fanboys just can’t take it.

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      1. Unlikely. The user has posted many times about other games that have no relation to AC or racing sims. Maybe, just maybe, there are people in the world who don’t like AC. Imagine that.

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      2. Interesting new tactic, just claim ppl posting issues is just completely made up, the shill book has been updated, also added, just claim PRC is in actual fact advertising for AC or SMS, both options is so fucking retarded it could only come from the vocal AC dick riders, you sound like a bunch of fundamentalists morons.

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          1. I bet a hundy bux, if bad reviews come out, AC community, taking a page straight from SMS handbook, will claim they arent real journalists, they cant drive and will probably be posting the reviewers addresses in no time, console reviewers you have been warned.

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            1. Everybody’s getting porche, apart from broke ass ISI they cant afford it, they need the money to run that broke down coffee shop where their headquarters is located, in Gjons mother basement.

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      3. This may be a super late response, but KSDemon actually has nothing to do with Kunos. I, previously, had a reddit account under my normal name (KingSigy), but I deleted it after failing to do anything noteworthy on the site.

        Flash forward two years and I found myself needing partners in Demon’s Souls to get the platinum trophy. I didn’t know where else to turn, so I went to reddit and made another account. I didn’t want to directly use my name (I’m not even sure why), so I shortened it to KS (KingSigy) and put Demon to imply that it was for Demon’s Souls.

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    1. Probably cause the so-called “physics glitches” that ksdemon found are just a product of him not knowing how real cars work due to playing too much burnout.

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        1. Bad luck James, PCars2 has a Porsche licence and will have more models of Porsche than any other racer in history, take that tip.

          Sorry Ian for letting the cat outa the bag but couldn’t help myself, they will all know sooner or later.

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  3. Holy shit, iOS is so ugly.

    But actually, I too do not understand how to penalties work in AC. I always get penalties for just sticking out my tyres out just a tiny bit outside the line. I didn’t even cut a corner or anything. And it’s good to know I’m not the only one who suck (and realise this; KSDemon probably did but hey, I’m not judging anyone just a sigh of relief).

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    1. >iOS is ugly

      enjoy your non responsive lagrdoid interface

      there is noting more steaming and shitty than Android. The Galaxy S7 Edge is a “flag ship” phone? It lagged as much as my babbys first non palm pilot smart phone the HTC Evo 1 from 2011

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  4. Full reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/assettocorsa/comments/4zfcgl/assetto_corsa_ps4_questions/

    >The difficulty modes seem to have no bearing on the AI’s skill. Easy is just as hard as Normal, Hard and Alien. For that matter, I’ve read the PC version has percentage sliders, but those are totally absent in the PS4 port.

    Does this sound like Super Street Fighter II Turbo, where the difficulty settings in operator settings menu ends up like hard outside Japan? Also to be fair, while I heard some people in GT6 say that some of GT6’s expert A-spec seasonals are that easy, the numbers of times I won an expert A-spec seasonal race in GT6 can be counted by my fingers alone.

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  5. Hello I just bought AC for the PC after reading only positive reviews. But I have some questions:
    -Where can I set the time of the race to night and how do I turn on my headlights?
    -I had a race where almost the whole field crashed but there was no safety car, where can I turn that on?
    -For most cars there is no difference in braking performance whether they are hot or cold, how do I fix this?
    -The AI is scared of overtaking me or something because when I leave a huge gap for them they hesitate to take my position. But when I stop on the track or pitlane they are agressive enough to drive into me on purpose. What settings should I use to enhance the AI?
    -How can you turn on rain?
    -My engine cannot overheat, even after redlining it for 20 minutes when standing still. how do you turn engine heat on?

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    1. Welcome ro rFactor 2, we have the most advances features and physics on the market. Proper race/flag rules, dynamic day/night cycles, drivers swaps during multiplayer and singleplayer, dynamic weather with rain, false starts, rolling starts, safety car, proper damage, pitstops and much more.

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    2. James liked my comment. I can die in peace now. Hopefuly there is a heaven where there is a sim with great physics, graphics and people that actually play it online.

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  6. Disastrous release yet again by an ill prepared developer looking to establish themselves on the console market. A couple of guys I race with regularly received the game ahead of schedule and basically told others to cancel their preorders due to the multiplayer component being a complete farce and missing even the most basic features you’d expect in a console released racing game in 2016. One of these guys received a message back on Kunos’ Facebook page saying that the next patch “in a couple of months” will contain private lobby functionality… don’t expect this game to last long if that’s Kunos’ timescale to implement the most basic of features, particularly when trying to appeal to the console market.

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    1. It’s not supposed to last long. Wasn’t the original justification for this release just to get the game onto consoles in order to “establish the brand,” regardless of the actual quality of the product? I always thought that was poor logic…

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  7. I wouldn’t class AC in the same league as rF2 regarding simulation, especially if you’re into dedicated race cars.

    Not to mention simulation accuracy breaking down at high ride frequencies and damping ratios, causing instability and exaggerated transmissibility. As a workaround they reduced the maximum allowable damping ratios to far lower than real-world values.

    The ODE solver methods used in AC seem not adequate for this task, unless used with decreased physics time-steps (which would be a half-baked solution using needless CPU resources), which you have no control over in AC anyway.

    And these are only a few of the many issues.

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  8. Watching Slaptrain and Blackpanthaa vids, they say driving on controller is good, but only with stability control on. Thing is, when it is not set to 0%, unrealistic lateral forces are applied on cars to prevent them from spinning out. That makes driving less realistic than Forza (in fact you can drift around with lotus 98T or Mercedes C9…). Just should make article about it.

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    1. Slaptrain and black pantha struggle to stay between the white lines for longer than two corners, with wheel or gamepad, why should i care what they say?

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      1. If some people think this of AC, it would be hell for the other PC sims. So before laughing of AC on consoles think how the ratings would be for your other preferred sims on consoles…

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          1. So console players didn’t find DR hard gameplay? That’s weird.

            A lot of those complaints you screenshot were due to fanatec, no private lobbies. Then some for graphics (pop in, screentearing, fps drops; limit fps to 60 or without vsync always causes tearing; without vsync should have limited fps to 64), and some for hard gameplay/AI. Guess they aren’t used yet to driving sims, probably with play time they get to enjoy more. Is not like PC players are all fantastic sim racers, they took their time.

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            1. Stop right there. The initial argument started when Anon suggested my claims of Facebook loaded with complaints were false, and took a screenshot of ONE GUY saying he enjoyed the game as “proof” that a whole lot of people were happy.

              Now that I was able to scoop up a bunch of people disappointed with the game for a bunch of reasons, you can’t sit there and say “well, X, Y, and Z complaints don’t matter.”

              Oh wait, yes you can, because you’re a pathetic little shill.

              Framerate matters. Controller support matters – at least tell people about it the way Codemasters did. Being able to create your own session online? Yep, that matters too.

              AC drones are literally defending a buggy pile of shit so Stefano “likes” one of their posts on the official forum and they can feel special for five minutes and tell their internet friends that a real life game developer knows who they are. Fucking fantastic!

              AC2 could literally be a blank word document entitled Assetto Cor2a.docx, and you fucking inbred shills would still sit there saying shit like “I love the minimalist approach, it’s not for everyone, but video games are art, and as an artistic piece, I think it’s magnificent. What IS a video game, anyway?”

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              1. All products have dissatisfied people. Idk why you were expecting AC to not have that. Is not about shilling. But you want to feel superior to others and specially of Kunos to say “i told you so”, ” i predicted this”, “i warned you”, ” you didnt listen to me”.

                You’re just feeding your egocentrism by linking screenshots of dissatisfied customers because you feel good that happened and AC isn’t 100% acclaimed.

                You’re saying KS didn’t release announcement of compatible wheels? They couldn’t have announced this months in advance because only recently there was news fanatec needed to buy a license for consoles. So KS informer people more or less a week before game release about the wheels compatible, so that people could see and remove the pre-order if they wanted.

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  9. Kunos again continues the trend of releasing games in a semi functional state, and patch the game through several updates after release. Having no private lobbies in a sim racing game is a joke, and makes it nearly impossible to run a racing league. On top of that, there is only the vote to kick function to remove dirty drivers, and we’ve seen how well that works in Forza. AC on consoles will either be a ghost town, or huge wreckfests with no way to remove trolls.

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  10. Here are screenshots of a reddit troll ranting about a game he almost certainly has not played yet – take anything positive you see about the game with a grain of salt folks! LOL

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    1. The controversy and shit slinging is real in the comments section of that article! If that is a representation of what the AC community is like when it comes to people expressing their own opinions over a “game” then the world really has spiralled out of control.

      AC shills accept your game is a steaming pile of half baked shite and move on, you’re making the PCARS forum mods look like saints compared to the utter bollocks you’re trying to spin in these comment boxes!

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    2. The author made a pretty good comment down there.

      “Nothing wrong with it being hard, it just needs to find a way of teaching you to play. Putting assists and a driving line in the game is a cheap way of doing this, but even that is done badly. That’s why I said a license system like Gran Turismo would have been nice. Better yet, why not have a career mode that actually teaches you from the beginning and allows you to get better? No such thing here, though, it just expects you to plug away without any guidance whatsoever. Imagine doing that for learner drivers in real life? That doesn’t seem realistic to me. If this game is supposed to be a simulator, how about teaching new drivers how to drive?”

      He’s right though. Its all about having a rewarding experience. I’m sure James talked about this a few articles ago.

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    1. Far out, even though ive been up and and down with AC, looking at reviews and comments REGARDLESS of the state of the game, just confirmed to me console players are for the most part fucking retarded,and if you are older than 18 and playing among these dweebs on a childs play thing, shame on you.

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      1. That is why you don’t bring out a simulation title to consoles. It will never work.

        Why do you think simulation titles have so little players on PC even with every single titles combined? 99% of “gamers” are casuals. They need a helping hand, handicaps, tutorials, etc.

        And when you give that to console players? You know what happens.

        I do agree that the game could’ve been a lot more rewarding. That could be a nice incentive to get through all the hardships just to finish a race without spinning out.

        P.s. I do think that the author need to get it clear in his head of the difference between a simulation and a “yet another racing game”.

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      2. Especially that Hugo dickhead. Jesus fucking Christ he’s shilling the game and harassing whoever dares to say AC is not the second coming of Jesus Christ so hard it makes me cringe.

        God. Fucking. Dammit.

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  11. I’m in Australia and we got AC yesterday. I don’t see an issue with any of the things stated in the original post… No private lobbies is balls but the rest seems like a solid game. Coming from pcars it is entirely different but i think that’s the point. AI are hyper aggressive which can be frustrating but i guess that’s not all that unrealistic either. I haven’t played the PC version to compare but i think it’s passable if not fantastic.

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      1. You can get on the first plane and i’ll be waiting at the airport when you arrive.
        You can lick the Dingo shit off my boots, then i’ll bash you to within an inch of your life, then you can blow me.

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  12. I haven’t played AC before last night. As soon as I loaded it up I thought fuck what have I done?!

    Firstly my TH8rs shifter doesn’t work with it, the graphics are bad, screen feels like it’s going to tear into a million pieces.

    We are forced to use some PS2 era button assignments on the wheel. With no customisation whatsoever.

    Tyre temps? Where??
    That awful shit sound, like something out of gran turismo.

    People actually call this a simulator? I would preferably call it a slightly evolved Gran Turismo.

    Returning my copy today. Fuck em

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  13. In other news AMS only managed to go with 257players peak with their v1 rolling out yesterday ..wtf happened to your favourite sim James since all time peak were 400 something 6 months ago?..James plz do a real proper journalizm!

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  14. Asseto Corsa gives an authentic driving experience, the feel of the ffb and physics are perfect, easy to drive slow but fun, hard to be consistently quick and win online races. Single player could use some improvements, but all aspects considered I don’t want to drive anything else (apart from Dirt). I have a few driving sims on my PS4 but this is the one I playing by default. 10/10

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  15. Best simulator I have played to date.

    The physics are fantastic, providing a genuine feel through the FFB that you’re driving and have control. You can feel every little bump in the track and exactly what the car is doing or about to do. The career mode is somewhat basic but very enjoyable and a good introduction to each car class & track. Drifting is really fun/challenging and can feel really rewarding when you put an awesome run together. I could praise every little detail of this simulator but I would bore you silly – so just buy it already!

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  16. This is a really thoughtful, polished, restrained car sim. No, there aren’t a ton of tracks. But the ones I’ve tried so far are fantastic. There aren’t a billion cars, but every one I’ve tried feels exactly right, looks great, and they’re extremely diverse. You can drive Niki Lauda’s Ferrari 312T around the Nurburgring. And it’ll feel like it.

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    1. Glad we finally have a real AC shill here so we can compare and contrast with the completely reasonable posts people have been calling “shilling”.

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    2. Most people i know have bought 2 or more physical copies, 1 to play, one to display and 1 to store away to keep mint, they will be worth a pretty penny one day mint.
      Probably the best cover art of any game this year too.
      Game plays amazing too, probably the only game i’ll play until at least the new year.

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          1. This is the type of game that you want around your house for people to see when they come over, shows you have class and its a great talking point.

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  17. Saw The SLAP Train doing mad skids on youtube, bought the game and a wheel.

    First time playing go straight to the Drift track and download the RX-7 FC3S mod.

    See the bright orange wall, o chit, wall tap dat bish!

    Crash into the wall at 130 km/h.

    RX-7 totaled beyond repair.

    10/10, would wall tap dat bish again

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  18. I cant blame the people for criticising the release, Kunos will get some things patched i guess and they should have released with a longer testing phase this time instead of throwing it out without public lobbies and other crappy stuff, for that they should be beheaded and penetrated till the end of time, i am with you. But playing that game with a gamepad is just not reccomendable, kunos should have known that most people will play it with a gamepad which will result in a crappy experience so they should reccomend using a steering wheel or else do not buy this game. Saw even Stefano play the game with a Gamepad in his “look what i´ve hacked streams” so he should have known better what kind of crap it is. They should just had left the consoles be consoles and not solely chase the money, with all the negative critics this might as well be the last console game they will release, prepare for the shit storm

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    1. AC has MUCH better gamepad support than Project Cars. And Forza 6 Apex is completely unplayable with gamepad if you turn all the assists off according to GamerMuscles video.

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  19. ‘ll give you my paypal later, until then on behalf of @Lord Kunos:

    1.8
    – New Ferrari FXXK (Tripl3 Pack DLC)
    – New Ferrari 488 GTB (Tripl3 Pack DLC)
    – New Praga R1 (Tripl3 Pack DLC)
    – New Audi S1 (A1)
    – New Monza 66 Full Course (sopraelevata)
    – New Monza 66 Junior Course
    – Improved reflection quality
    – Improved shadow stability
    – Improved graphics performance
    – Fixed Tyre Model 10 not updating Dx and Dy value in telemetry app
    – Added AI traction mistakes
    – AI improvements on slower reaction after an impact, for more realistic collisions
    – Overlay Leaderboard now shows correct positions on the grid at race start
    – Fixed Laps app showing 0 as first lap
    – Fixed Race Control UI for the low resolution screens
    – Wrong direction penalty gets also time penalty
    – Added float clutch to SPageFilePhysics
    – Fixed turbolevel digital item showing a wrong value
    – Fixed various problems/timing on ghost cars
    – Fixed typo on sound distance attenuation for Lotus Evora GTC/GX
    – Fixed sample attack for BMW M3 e30 GrA/DTM limiters
    – Replay files will not reset anymore at session start (no need to rush out of the server anymore to save a replay)
    – Fixed remote cars head movements in multiplayer and multiplayer replays
    – Fixed typo on LaFerrari active differential lock in coast and small bumpstop stiffness changes
    – General improvements on V10 tyres for rolling resistance, flex, pressures and more.
    – Improved Maserati GranTurismo MC GT4 suspension, should improve braking without ABS
    – V10 tyres for Hypercars LaFerrari, McLaren P1, Pagani Huayra
    – V10 tyres for GT2 cars BMW M3 GT2, Ferrari 458 GT2, Corvette C7R
    – V10 tyres for Racing Hypercars Ferrari 599XX, Ferrari FXXK, Pagani Zonda R
    – Fixed ERS power output when battery is close to 0 and MGU-H is set to battery
    – Removed ERS cockpit controls for MGU-H and Recovery in McLaren P1
    – Improvement in performance for collision detection and physics solver
    – Fixed clouds when switching sessions
    – Returning to pit during a time penalty results in a greater time penalty
    – Fixed possible drive through cheat
    – Fixed blurred objects not working if speed was negative
    – Fixed hotlap mode: now valid laps will be correctly registered
    – Removed white flag: a new message will appear the moment the race leader starts his last lap
    – Modding: extra animations now binded to three channels NUM 4, 5 and 6 (group animations to make them play simultaneously, otherwise each clip will be played separately)
    – Modding: rotating object support, useful for cooling fans [ROTATING_OBJECT_0] in extra_animations (affects in-game)
    – Modding: series scripts added for digital speed bars [SPEED_SERIE_0] in digital_instruments and invert option for KERS input items (add INVERT=1 line)

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    1. I don’t like AC at all and I think that the devs are a buch of mediterranean inbred fucks and the majority of the playerbase are close-minded little children that will defend Kunos like it is some sort of relegion.
      But credit where credit is due; These are more updates than ISI and Sector3 combined can push in a year.

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  20. AC is first to have purraris, lambos, porsches with realistic manufacturer data and lasersscanned tracks, absolutely magnificent simulation title.

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    1. Actually, it’s at 85 now and the user score is 8.4

      PCARS is at 83 and user 6.6

      Regardless of what many of the children here want to believe (and directly against certain predictions), AC has been more of a critical success so far.

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  21. Stefano finally hired community manager who responds same copy paste answer every time 😛:p

    “We’re aware of a frame rate issue with Xbox One and our dev team have been working hard to fix it! Expect an update next week.”

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    1. How could someone who can´t do 2 laps without binning it know if the game is any good?

      PS: Hey James, has Hillary Clinton gone to jail already? It´s been a month, remember?

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  22. As someone who expected this to happen from the day it was announced I’m MAJORLY enjoying the backlash and the validation it brings me, almost as much as I did with No Man’s Sky. To be honest, some of what I’ve read sounds even worse than I imagined, but that’s modern game development for you: rushed releases, no quality control and a complete reliance on hype, pre-orders and day 1 sales.

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  23. “Mike Pence will be running the country. Trump is a figurehead to make speeches.”

    So the answer is no. Makes you just a political fanboy comparable to game fanboys but with real life conseqeunces

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    1. Now now, that wasn’t very nice. People that disregard decades of evidence in favor of manipulative fear mongering deserve pity. They also believe they are privileged to respect as part of ‘free speech’.

      Such poor little victims 🙂

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    1. AC WILL DESTROY YOUR CONSOLE BECAUSE ITS SIMULATION VALUE IS TOO HIGH FOR THE HARDWARE!

      Noticed the tearing? It’s an early sign!!!!

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  24. AC 1.8 > AMS v1
    AC Laser Monza Historic Full > Any rf2 guesswork ovals.
    For once Monza oval actually turn RIGHT!

    GJ Kunos!

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    1. WE WILL MAKE rFACTOR (2) GREAT AGAIN! JUST WAIT SO I CONTACT MY PATCH! (V.3)*

      * I’d need some more info, but IT’S COMING!

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  25. Hey guys, I saw a video on youtube, it seems AC is running fine on PS4, what’s your problem?

    Also, I saw another video (on youtube) and it seems Associat0r ditched the keyboard? Is this real?

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  26. Saying it looks like a PS2 game is stupid from the footage I’ve seen. The game looks pretty close to the PC version in all the videos I’ve watched.

    The bugs and other QA issues however, I can certainly believe. It’s not surprising that a small PC based dev team stretching out their game to two other systems is going to introduce new bugs somewhere along the line.

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  27. triggered much? gonna accuse your readers of being mentally ill? kinda hypocritical to complain when devs do it and then you go off on one

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  28. FFB of AC is a joke, bought a T300 lately and fired this game up, did feel a bit improvement over G27, but it still suck! I can only rate this game a bit better than PCars, in fact, both are craps.

    Wonder how these gaming websites can give AC a 7 out of 10, for me, I will give it a 4 out of 10, or at most, 5 out of 10.

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